Saturday, December 29, 2007

DAMN THOSE UPLOADERS!

For all you Dattebayo fans, I'm sure you're wondering why the website is down? Well, Dattebayo is pissed at gay uploaders who keep putting up the company's stuff on other websites (Youtube, Veoh, etc.), which was, what the people from Dattebayo considered a strong "kick in in the nuts". Dattebayo released this message:

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Dear leechers,


We have warned everyone repeatedly on the issue of streaming our subs.

We sincerely appreciate everyone's efforts to spread the Naruto/Bleach love, but were growing increasingly frustrated, not to mention worried, over our repeatedly ignored requests not to upload our material to Veoh, Youtube and other streaming sites.

Perhaps you guys aren't aware, but the flagrant disregard for our requests puts us in an increasingly vulnerable position as a fansubbing group. We don't want to be shut down (which is something we are in constant threat of) and if our rules are not honored, we may well be.

Therefore we once again make this request:

Please do NOT upload any of our released episodes to streaming sites.
Since it's hard to get people to comply just by writing in these news, we need to get your attention. So effective immediately, we are forced to stop releasing our subtitled episodes for ALL our current projects until the request is met, full stop. This includes Naruto, Bleach, Pitagora Switch and Pokemon.

We regret that we have to take such a drastic stance, but our requests have gone ignored for years. There's not much more we can do to protect ourselves and to continue bringing these episodes to fans, but we believe that taking these precautions now will keep us operational for the long run. And we hope to keep bringing these episodes to English-speaking fans for a long time. Please help us by abiding by our rules.

Here’s the issue: Dattebayo translates and subtitles anime, and released the episodes for public download on our website. Lots of well-meaning fans then take these Dattebayo episodes, re-encode / cut them into parts and upload them onto streaming sites like Youtube or Veoh. THIS IS BAD. The reason is not because Dattebayo is stupid or annoying or mean.

It's disrespectful to the subbers’ wishes, but more importantly,
Fansubbing is not legal, and with the popularity of Naruto/Bleach growing, legitimate companies have licensed them for DVD releases outside of Japan. That makes fansubbers a target - although Dattbayo makes no money, legally the companies have all the right to shut us down. Because Dattebayo is a prominent fansubbing group, it's at constant risk and legal threat. When you put videos on Veoh/Youtube, that exposes the group and makes it a big target.

To this end, Dattebayo has politely and repeatedly asked uploaders on many streaming sites to STOP UPLOADING our files. Many people assume that the uploaders have Dattebayo's permission, but that's not true. The uploaders have basically ignored all polite requests to stop. With recent changes to Youtube "copyright enforcement" policy, it's nearly impossible to get Dattebayo material removed once it's been uploaded, therefore leaving our work in horrible quality for everyone to view.

Which is why Dattebayo has decided that we will put a hold on all our subtitled episode releases until the uploaders comply. We've been way too nice so far by letting this issue slide, but this is the end. Here's our (repeated) request to everyone who butchers our work by uploading it to streaming sites. STOP. If you're an uploader, please DO NOT UPLOAD DATTEBAYO SUBS to any more streaming sites. If you're guilty of doing this in the past, and your streaming site account is still valid, GO AND DELETE ALL THE DATTEBAYO VIDEOS WHICH BELONG TO YOUR ACCOUNT. We NEVER gave ANYONE permission to upload our work to ANY STREAMING SITE.

It might be annoying to have to figure out how to watch anime without Youtube or Veoh, but trust me, it's really not that hard. And some fans complain, "I don't know how to do it! It’s too hard! I need Veoh!" Well, if we fansubbers can figure out how to download Naruto, translate it, time it, edit it, encode it, release it - surely you can learn how to watch it. Or you can always (and should) buy the DVDs when they're released officially.

Dattebayo is providing a SERVICE - a free, fast, reliable service. Fansubbers would like to keep providing the service, so we hope everyone can understand why this decision has been made. Dattebayo's wish is NOT to shut down anime-sharing - it’s to keep it alive for the long run. Please help by considering the bigger picture.

Without streaming sites, anime-watching may become less convenient, that is unfortunately true. But it's better than shutting down fansubbing entirely - because then you'll have no anime at all.

Dattebayo Fansubs, LLC. Taking internet seriously for the last 3.22 years


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I support Dattebayo entirely in their stance and I hope all idiot uploaders who disrespect Dattebayo's requests writhe in pain and drop dead for not getting their weekly dose of a well subbed anime for the coming days, and hopefully, for months.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

What about the fans that have always downloaded and will miss Bleach and the like :(

Anonymous said...

probably a stupid question, but i don't know the answer, so i will ask

why can't datebayo add a streaming section to their website? i mean, like, streaming them directly from their site.... then at least people wouldn't be getting them from youtube or veoh or whatever...

anyway, i do support dattebayo in this decision.. guess i'll have to go back to getting them from bleachportal for the time being...

Anonymous said...

ya, wouldn't it be nice if it was a streaming site like veoh??

Anonymous said...

The main problem with streaming is it takes an enormous ammount of bandwidth to get a decent stream to a small fraction of the downloaders. A torrent file on the other hand requires very little at the source, which is why it is so great.

Anonymous said...

"1º Dattebayo SUCKS
2º They don't own Naruto or Bleach anime, therefore they don't have the right to tell us how to use what we download. If right now what they are doing can be considerer illegal it's even more illegal to tell us (and send C&S to the uploaders xDD) that they own Naruto episodes. If what they are doing is not illegal, then the uploaders are the only ones who are doing something illegal. Then, what's the matter?
3º This is THE INTERNET"

I agree with this. If fansubbing it's not legal then companies can take legal actions against them, Naruto is uploaded to Youtube or not. After all if you see how many people download or get a copy of Naruto's torrents all over the world you'll realize that they're MILLIONS, so there's no point to stop pursuing fansubs just because their releases are not uploaded to Youtube. Seriously, Google do exists.

Anonymous said...

Anyway there’s no Naruto nor Bleach till January 10th and I’m sure that’s another YHBT (You Have Been Trolled) announce. They’ve done this like 1.000.000 millon times and after all these years there’s still people who think they’re actually going to stop subbing. LOL

Unknown said...

10:40 Anon.

If you copied a DVD for a friend, would you appreciate it if they went out on the street and started telling random strangers that you were a good source for illegal DVD copies? Would you want that sort of exposure. And no they don't own Naruto or Bleach, they did, however, spend a considerable amount of time preparing the fansubs. If you don't want people telling you what to do with with the fansubs they made, stop whining and do it yourself.

Anonymous said...

It's not that hard to learn how to use torrent downloading, and personally, I would much rather watch Naruto, and Bleach full screen in a stand alone media player. Most of those that upload dattebayo's subs to streaming sites are simply looking for website hits (attention), or are simply too lazy to learn torrent downloading.

Anonymous said...

I will say this only once everythin that is sold in the world for currency is illegal. this world was supposed to be run by a FREE MARKET and for all of those idiots who work for corporation and make millions of dollars off the common man are a bunch of power hungry money grubbing greedy bastards the lot of you......furthermore all currency in the world is wrong..currency doesn't exist and for those who dont understand this go ask the rockafellers...so if you dont like the fact that people upload and stream anime and the such the only reason your saying that is because YOU LOSE MONEY! GET OVER YOURSELVES because i plain dont give a FUCK what you want! I will watch my anime for free damnit or i will start my own website so that everyone in the world can get their anime for no cost to them even if it costs me an arm and a leg to do it!!!!! QUIT BITCHING LIKE LITTLE KIDS WHO DONT GET WHAT THEY WANT..GROW UP

Anonymous said...

Also I would like to let you know Aris that you are not the one who created the art, character, story line, or plot of whatever anime people are streaming the author did so you have no say in what happens to that persons art...they created it not for the money but for the people to enjoy so GO FUCK YOURSELF!

KuKX said...

All i can say is.. Kitty! seriously Roll on And die! the topic was too clear and all you mumbling about is currency, poeple making billion and you dont. well i was a fan of dattebayos effort (not hes art) hes not making money through it, well except for donations, but still he records, subs and waste a time to upload. just imagine your work is beening used to make money and you don't have any cut from it. what would you feel?

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